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Trojans1andAll
04-12-2013, 08:46 PM
I hope this is the right forum for this question.

After I had a couple of adult beverages last night this question popped into my head, if C-DOA thinks:

MT can bring the Nashville market...
NT can bring the Dallas/Ft. Worth market...
F_U can bring the Miami/Boca market (between the Dolphins and Heat, Miami is NOT a college sport town)...

Why don't they think Troy can bring the Montgomery/Dothan markets? Is it that Montgomery/Dothan aren't big enough? Is it because we are in the shadow of TWO SEC schools. Or are ua'sb and S.Miss. standing in the way? Or all of the above?

At any rate, I wish I could see CDOA's reaction to the Nashville and Dallas TV ratings next season.

TrojanFanatic
04-13-2013, 11:39 AM
I've always been told that Montgomery and Dothan aren't very large markets...I honestly have no idea other than that

dgoebel
04-13-2013, 12:44 PM
I hope this is the right forum for this question.

After I had a couple of adult beverages last night this question popped into my head, if C-DOA thinks:

MT can bring the Nashville market...
NT can bring the Dallas/Ft. Worth market...
F_U can bring the Miami/Boca market (between the Dolphins and Heat, Miami is NOT a college sport town)...

Why don't they think Troy can bring the Montgomery/Dothan markets? Is it that Montgomery/Dothan aren't big enough? Is it because we are in the shadow of TWO SEC schools. Or are ua'sb and S.Miss. standing in the way? Or all of the above?

At any rate, I wish I could see CDOA's reaction to the Nashville and Dallas TV ratings next season.

Here is how I see it. They have UAB taking the largest market, AU and Auburn take the whole state, USA takes the Mobile-Pensacola market. Troy brings nothing to the table TV wise. We have good athletics and good fan support for a small school. But there is no conference worrying about the Dothan TV market.

pelliott
04-14-2013, 08:31 AM
From Nielsen Website

5 Dallas-Ft. Worth 2,489,970 2.175
16 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale 1,546,920 1.352
29 Nashville 1,016,290 0.888
40 Birmingham (Ann and Tusc) 739,750 0.646
60 Mobile-Pensacola (Ft Walt) 537,810 0.470
67 Roanoke-Lynchburg 461,420 0.403
82 Huntsville-Decatur (Flor) 386,520 0.338
96 Savannah 319,160 0.279
118 Montgomery-Selma 247,230 0.216
122 Macon 239,820 0.210
123 Lafayette, LA 230,670 0.202
128 Columbus, GA (Opelika, AL) 213,980 0.187
141 Beaumont-Port Arthur 165,440 0.145
167 Hattiesburg-Laurel 110,330 0.096
172 Dothan 100,950 0.088

picking up 5% of the Dallas Fort Worth market is like picking up the entire Dothan Market

Hemi Man
04-14-2013, 09:21 AM
From Nielsen Website

5 Dallas-Ft. Worth 2,489,970 2.175
16 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale 1,546,920 1.352
29 Nashville 1,016,290 0.888
40 Birmingham (Ann and Tusc) 739,750 0.646
60 Mobile-Pensacola (Ft Walt) 537,810 0.470
67 Roanoke-Lynchburg 461,420 0.403
82 Huntsville-Decatur (Flor) 386,520 0.338
96 Savannah 319,160 0.279
118 Montgomery-Selma 247,230 0.216
122 Macon 239,820 0.210
123 Lafayette, LA 230,670 0.202
128 Columbus, GA (Opelika, AL) 213,980 0.187
141 Beaumont-Port Arthur 165,440 0.145
167 Hattiesburg-Laurel 110,330 0.096
172 Dothan 100,950 0.088

picking up 5% of the Dallas Fort Worth market is like picking up the entire Dothan Market

I would be shocked if those schools pulled in 2% of those markets.

troy4ever
04-14-2013, 10:27 AM
And besides...if it is all about markets...Georgia State would be more apt to get the call to join than Troy due to the Atlanta market.

pelliott
04-14-2013, 01:34 PM
Decisions are made in boardrooms - TV markets are what the are
The example I used was North Texas picking up 5% of the Dallas Market

So let's say they pick up 2% of the Dallas Market ONLY - i think thats 48,000 TV sets
that's almost 1/2 of the Dothan Market

Just an illustration as to why them and not us

WeSuck.com
04-14-2013, 06:32 PM
Again, I ask the question, how much more interest does a WKU@F_U game played in CDOA than a WKU@F_U game played in the Sunbelt? Answer: It doesn't. The game will be attended by 3,500 people and watched by fewer. CDOA and ESPN are committing fraud selling bowl games and advertisers on market representation.

SBC needs to verbally and publically call them out on it.

Trojans1andAll
04-14-2013, 06:41 PM
again, i ask the question, how much more interest does a wku@f_u game played in cdoa than a wku@f_u game played in the sunbelt? Answer: It doesn't. The game will be attended by 3,500 people and watched by fewer. Cdoa and espn are committing fraud selling bowl games and advertisers on market representation.

Sbc needs to verbally and publically call them out on it.

yes.

likesturtles
04-14-2013, 07:08 PM
ESPNU averages fewer than 2 million viewers per game anyway. Not sure about Fox Sports where CUSA games air, but I think I read thier numbers are around 2 million. ESPN main gets around 4 - 5 million for big games (I think from what I could find) but again goes small for games in our general peer level. Big numbers just don't happen regardless of the market and they don't seem to fluctuate that much regardless of who in our peer group is playing.

WeSuck.com
04-14-2013, 09:47 PM
ESPNU averages fewer than 2 million viewers per game anyway. Not sure about Fox Sports where CUSA games air, but I think I read thier numbers are around 2 million. ESPN main gets around 4 - 5 million for big games (I think from what I could find) but again goes small for games in our general peer level. Big numbers just don't happen regardless of the market and they don't seem to fluctuate that much regardless of who in our peer group is playing.

The Commish and Dear Leader need to continuously pubically mock and ridicule CDOA in theie false claims - on and off the field.

The only CDOA city that might have some interest in their team is Memphis. Houston is somewhat loyal to Rice, more so than U of H, but not at Memphis numbers. Hattiesburg might, but is no bigger than Dothan. Go find me 100 people on the streets of BHam that even know what UA's B team mascot is.

SoFlaTrojan
04-16-2013, 11:27 PM
FAU does not even claim to bring the Miami-Fort Lauderdale market, even though it does draw students and fans from that market and has campuses there (Fort Lauderdale area).

FAU is in the West Palm Beach (Boca Raton north to Vero Beach and west to Lake Okeechobee) market - which is fairly large at No. 38 with around 800,000 households - and gets little if any mention two counties to the south. Hell, FIU is pretty much ignored in the Miami media.