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newnan trojan
09-01-2012, 08:24 PM
Texas State is beating Houston 24-10!

Same Houston that was ranked in the top 10 last year. Texas State was a WONDERFUL add to the SBC!:eatdrink004:

troy4ever21
09-01-2012, 08:29 PM
I'm loving Texas State right now. Can't wait for them to be in the Belt.

Here's some other interesting games going on:
Memphis- 10
Tenn Martin- 7

Ole Miss- 28
Central Arkansas- 20

Arkansas- 33
Jax State- 21

Wake Forest- 20
Liberty- 17

newnan trojan
09-01-2012, 08:38 PM
27-10 Texas State Halftime!!!

Chrono124
09-01-2012, 08:39 PM
Awesome, I always thought Houston was over rated anyways.

newnan trojan
09-01-2012, 09:54 PM
30-13 Texas State with 6mins left!:eek:

troy4ever21
09-01-2012, 10:09 PM
I'm VERY glad Benson grabbed them when he did. They'll make a fine addition to the SBC. :bounce012: :eatdrink004: :thumb:

TroyTrojans2003
09-01-2012, 10:25 PM
FIU is losing to Duke!!!

Chrono124
09-01-2012, 10:30 PM
FIU is losing to Duke!!!

No FIU LOST to Duke 46-26, not a good game for them.

Discophobia
09-01-2012, 10:33 PM
South Alabama lost to UT San Antonio, North Texas crushed, Arky St. getting pushed around.......The Sun Belt looks like......the Sun Belt!

TrojanWarrior418
09-01-2012, 10:39 PM
Final: Texas State 30, Houston 13

troy4ever21
09-01-2012, 10:42 PM
I was really rootin' for USA earlier today. If they only had 30 more seconds they could have been in field goal range. I hope they bounce back. GO SBC!

TrojanWarrior418
09-01-2012, 11:54 PM
I know this has nothing to do with the Sun Belt but I found this to be interesting. Final: UT Martin 20, Memphis 17 the Skyhawks kicked the winning field goal with :04 left on the clock. But remember kids Memphis is going to the Big East because they bring *so* much to the table :rolleyes:

dgoebel
09-02-2012, 02:51 PM
Let's face it, there is not much of a difference, if any, between 1-AA (FCS) and a low level D1. There are several FCS schools who could play and possibly win the Sun Belt...Georgia Southern, App. St., North Dakota State, Montana, Liberty, Sam Houston, James Madison etc. The gap has definitely shrunk.

Hemi Man
09-02-2012, 04:06 PM
Let's face it, there is not much of a difference, if any, between 1-AA (FCS) and a low level D1. There are several FCS schools who could play and possibly win the Sun Belt...Georgia Southern, App. St., North Dakota State, Montana, Liberty, Sam Houston, James Madison etc. The gap has definitely shrunk.

Disagree. It's possible to win a game or two, but the lack of scholarships will show up later in the season, in a lack of depth.

trojanbrutha
09-02-2012, 04:07 PM
Let's face it, there is not much of a difference, if any, between 1-AA (FCS) and a low level D1. There are several FCS schools who could play and possibly win the Sun Belt...Georgia Southern, App. St., North Dakota State, Montana, Liberty, Sam Houston, James Madison etc. The gap has definitely shrunk.

I don't buy that...they may win a couple of games, but you can't argue with the numbers. 85 vs 35. To start a season, you are fresh and so is that fcs team. As the season drags out, you can throw more "quality" numbers at them than they can throw at you.

Navarre Trojan
09-02-2012, 05:59 PM
I don't buy that...they may win a couple of games, but you can't argue with the numbers. 85 vs 35. To start a season, you are fresh and so is that fcs team. As the season drags out, you can throw more "quality" numbers at them than they can throw at you.

While I agree with you on the depth, where did you get '35'? I believe the number of scholarshiops at FCS schools is 60, I could be wrong, but I THINK that is the correct number.

dgoebel
09-02-2012, 06:33 PM
Correct. 60 for FCS 35 for DII. My point was only that there are a lot of talent in FCS, a lot of those players are just as good as what we have, they just might not have as many.

Navarre Trojan
09-02-2012, 06:37 PM
Correct. 60 for FCS 35 for DII. My point was only that there are a lot of talent in FCS, a lot of those players are just as good as what we have, they just might not have as many.

GOTCHA - and agree.. There 1s are as good as a lot of FBS's 1s, but their 2s and 3s just aren't. It would be impossible for them to be, due to what you had mentioned before, number of available scholarships.

trojanbrutha
09-02-2012, 06:56 PM
While I agree with you on the depth, where did you get '35'? I believe the number of scholarshiops at FCS schools is 60, I could be wrong, but I THINK that is the correct number.

A mistake on my part, but I think you get the meaning. :thumb:

Chasin170
09-02-2012, 09:45 PM
FCS has 63 scholarships and most would find tough sledding due to depth.Although a small % of kids will defer a FBS offer to play FCS the lion's share opt for the larger program.

UT-Martin basically beat Memphis due to it's superior athletic ability.ASU will beat them as bad as they want.

MonsterDawg
09-02-2012, 09:54 PM
Disagree. It's possible to win a game or two, but the lack of scholarships will show up later in the season, in a lack of depth.


I don't buy that...they may win a couple of games, but you can't argue with the numbers. 85 vs 35. To start a season, you are fresh and so is that fcs team. As the season drags out, you can throw more "quality" numbers at them than they can throw at you.

I think dgoebel meant if they were to move to FBS, meaning they would have 85 vs 63 scholarships. it depends on the school of course, but Ga State made the move in 3 years and ODU is making move to CUSA after 4 years. ODU made it to quarter finals of FCS after just 3 years of starting a team, but they are in large market. They will both be competitive in their divisions within a year or two of recruiting for those 85 scholarships.

Edit: just fyi on scholarships
FBS: 85
FCS: 63
D11: 36
naia: 24
NJCAA: 85
d111: no athletic scholarships

fcs has equivalency rule, so can offer partial scholarships to actually have more than 63 players. fbs has head count rule. cant divide up scholarships, so its a full ride.

TexasTrojan
09-03-2012, 10:39 PM
Texas State is beating Houston 24-10!

Same Houston that was ranked in the top 10 last year. Texas State was a WONDERFUL add to the SBC!:eatdrink004:

As I have told you guys before Texas State is a great football tradition. And I think Troy has played them before. They were formally known as Southwest Texas State . I the early 80's when I was there geeting a Masters they won two National championships. They had Jim Wacker coaching and Ricky Sanders(Washington Redskins) one of the players who went pro. When I visited Troy it reminded me so much of Texas State and they both have great football traditions