basketball games

[tsufl]

would be a lot better if the band would get some new music. Im sick of hearing that stupid ESPN song as well as Matchbox20 song, that thing hasnt been cool for about 5 years now.

[FRED_of_TROY]

We don't play a matchbox20 song that I am aware of. If you are there before the games, you would know that we have quite a bit of new music. In fact, before the game today we played about 6-8 songs that have been added in the last 2 weeks. And that isn't all of the new stuff.

BUT it is hard to do much else during time outs. And we rarely play ESPN more than once per half. WE try to rotate ESPN, Go Troy Go, T-R, Get up, Just Do It, and the Hey Song equally, but sometimes when we are ready for a media timeout and someone calls a short one, we have to pick something that fits there. It's not as easy as it may seem.

Next time you are at a game, come check out my folder. I'll be glad to show you all of the music in there. And other than the short songs and the fight songs, the only song we play more than once a game is Sledgehammer. We usually start and end each night on that one.

[st932253]

ESPN theme song once a half? Geesh.

There are only 4 media time outs per half. That's 8 total. And the band probably gets to play on 4 of them (the other half goes to commercials and house music) if its like most colleges...so that means 4 songs.

I agree that 30 seconds arent enough time to play a "song" and probably just good for "cheers" like the ones you listed.

Troy's band played some songs like the Beyonce one that was really good. Better than hearing Louie Louie or other things over and over.

But any song (aside from fight song) more than once a game is annoying to the fans...and probably to the band kids who showed up to jam.

[BMarkey]

Troy's band is probably more into basketball games than many other college bands. It plays more, too. I like that. No need for house music when you have the Sound.

That said, ESPN probably ought to be shelved for awhile.

[nasupporter]

You folks whine about anything!! (just kidding),,,
Drove down for the game Friday and loved it all (except the outcome),,,,, The 'Sound of The South' is great no matter what they play. I loved it all and I think they do a much better job than most college pep bands. Keep it up!!! and keep playing 'em over and over!!

[troy4ever]

Of all the things we could complain and worry about we complain about this?! We talk about building tradition in our athletics but yet we complain when the band doesn't play different stand tunes? That's somewhat contradicting. I don't know about you guys, but I closely associate much of the songs that the pep band plays with my Troy basketball experience. To me it wouldn't be the same if I went and heard totally different songs from what I'm so use to hearing. The important thing is not to do away with the songs that they currently play, but to be sure to ADD new things to that. The larger your music selection, the better the band is overall.

[tsufl]

I dont think anyone would complain if we never heard that ESPN thing ever again.

[BMarkey]

We should be complaining about Troy's inability ro rebound!

Good God, what are we going to do about that?!

They are killing us.

[FRED_of_TROY]

ESPN theme song once a half? Geesh.

There are only 4 media time outs per half. That's 8 total. And the band probably gets to play on 4 of them (the other half goes to commercials and house music) if its like most colleges...so that means 4 songs.

Actually, the Troy pep band plays at every time-out unless there is something else going on, which is rare. Once the announcer stops talking, we start playing every time-out.

Yes, I understand that some of you are tired of ESPN. But short of you writing us a new short stand cheer, there isn't much to do about it. If you don't want us to play it, then call or e-mail the band directors and tell them. We just play what we are told.

But how about ya'll stop complaining. UCF's pep band didn't even play until about 2 minutes before the game started. Then, they didn't play during even half the time-outs. From what I remember at the tournament, only 3 A-Sun schools even have pep bands. When I listened to the Ga. St. game two weeks ago, I never heard theirs play, so that one may not exist anymore. So get over that one song and enjoy the fact that you actually have a pep band.

[st932253]

Pssst Fred. Criticism is a good thing. It means people care about what you guys are doing over there. Don't take it so hard. Only good comments about the pep band on here except for 1 song. Not a hard fix...I'm sure you guys played just as much before you had the ESPN song in your folder.

UCFs pep band is also solid - they might not play as much at halftime, but our halftime is very packed with the nationally ranked cheerleaders, dance team and mascot all getting their ins, throw in some marketing events and there goes your 16 minutes before the teams come back on the court.

I attended every A-Sun tournament game last year and the UCF vs. Troy game was the best display of two great bands. Ga. State is pitiful, Belmont was decent. As you said, I don't think anyone else has a band. Samford used to bring one, and JSU arguably has one of the most unique pep bands in the nation.

[tsufl]

sometimes they dont even wait until the announcer is done.

[troy_university_majorette]

dude, you're annoying! :roll: quit complaining!

[tsufl]

and the dance team is out of sync

[D1Trojan4U]

wow....yes- please give me back 8 year olds playing a mini-game, the Dixie Darlins, or free throws from a chair.

[TropolitanSportsEditor]

There is only one other college basketball pep band in the nation that might play more than the Sound of the South. Don't forget about Duke. The completely basketball/music school. But, other than them I would have to say that UCF and TROY's band are both equally good in there own right.

Altough, I would rather listen to the SOTS, primarily because I like the big brass sound that they have.

[st932253]

The difference between Troy and UCF bands and the rest of the conference is that we have marching bands.

The kids in the pep band are used to blowing their brains out outside. Its been my observations that smaller schools w/o football have pep bands that are little more better musically (They're also usually 100 percent music majors and on scholarship), but the ones with marching bands are more intense, energetic and exciting.

I haven't heard Gardner-Webb's pep band, but I bet they'd fall into that category as well.

[FRED_of_TROY]

I needed my laughs today. Thanks tsufl. You are obnoxious and pointless.

D1Trojan, I know your intentions and I'm having too good of a day to give into you right now.

[tsufl]

fred, you get offended too easily, chill out!

[D1Trojan4U]

I mean...if you know my intentions, I would love to hear what your take on them is. While you're at it- how about some lotto numbers?

[troy_university_majorette]

and HOW did I just KNOW that after I posted that, you would give some stupid comment about the dance team??!!!! I mean, no matter how hard we practice and try to please people, there is always SOMEBODY that has to complain about something! I mean, give us a break!! We're not professional or anything!! I mean, really!!!!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

[tsufl]

my comment about the dance team was nothing more than an attempt to piss you off. Mission Accomplished! (btw, you girls do great)

[troy_university_majorette]

HAHAHA :P :P :P :P

[TroyTuba]

....... Its been my observations that smaller schools w/o football have pep bands that are little more better musically (They're also usually 100 percent music majors and on scholarship.......

Afraid I'm going to have to disagree. For one thing, being 100% music majors means absolutely nothing. However, if you had said performance majors (meaning they are trained to play their instrument as a professional) I might tend to agree to that part of the statement. The other thing is that scholarship or not, the people that are in the pep bands are there for the love of the game or for the sheer plaesure of heckling. Everyone in Troy's pep band receives a scholarship for their services.

[D1Trojan4U]

well sign me up for a heckling scholarship as well. If Markus knows anything, it's that I deserve a heckling scholarship.

[st932253]

Troytuba:

1) Congrats that you guys get scholarships. I'm 90 percent sure that UCF's pep band isn't at that point yet. I know Gator Band gets something like 30 dollars a game. With 2-3 games a week, a student doesn't even need to have another job in the spring.

2) I understand what you mean as far as performance vs. education or technology or other music degrees, but what I meant is that those kids still are usually in classes where they are playing Monday through Friday and in an environment where there is a stronger focus on music vs. entertainment.

3) To go along with that, you realize that Marching Band members pick up many bad habits musically for the sake of an entertaining show. What I mean is that kids at these small schools w/o marching band don't even know what it is like to play outdoors since they have been out of high school. Their "ensemble" has been developed inside, not on a football field. If the Backcourt Posse rehearse a good deal during basketball season, then I'm sure you combat some of those things during that time. UCF, the band program I know the most about, has 1-2 rehearsals for basketball, and usually just learns tunes before the game starts.

4) Not everyone is in athletic bands for "the love for the game." It's a nice idea. But you won't convince me that things like the friendships, the opportunity to perform, and in your case the scholarship are the major driver for some of the students being there. I'm sure some of you guys are die-hard - I'd expect nothing less from those of you frequenting a sports message board.

Check out the mighty Hatter Pep band if you need more convincing. I also don't recall the GSU band being too knowledgable of the sport of basketball (had the honor of sitting next to them during the GSU/TSU game in the A-Sun semis...when, as you know, any kind of crowd support GSU could muster would have been much appreciated in those critical final minutes.

[TroyTuba]

I understand all of that and you're right about most of what you stated. Marching band isn't just a blast your face off ensemble here, so we generally don't have the bad habbits to start with. Most of the things I can only speak of from our standpoint, although I do have lots of experience with other college ensembles.

[TrojanWar]

I believe we discussed this back during the football season, but we really need a forum for band discussions. That group needs to be added. I'm not trying to run the band people off, as it is all great reading, but it always seems to get mixed into the wrong areas.

[pkf4troy]

Band discussions belong in either football or basletball as they are part of the "game" atmosphere. As long as its related to that game I see nothing wrong. In this case they are referring to pep bands AT basketball games and the relevance to the games. Just FYI.....not trying to get on a soapbox or say that you are wrong....or seem as though I'm "*****ing". People can take what they read the wrong way sometimes.

[D1Trojan4U]

I think that the popcorn AT basketball games is both splendid and tasty. Hey, it's at basketball games - and we dont have a popcorn forum.

[tsufl]

I think the popcorn sucks, tastes like it was left over from football season, they charge too damn much for it and close too early.

[TroyTuba]

Don't forget that crap they call coke AT the games either.....tastes like Mr. Ho has been dipping chicken in it before he fries it.

[troy_university_majorette]

I believe we discussed this back during the football season, but we really need a forum for band discussions. That group needs to be added. I'm not trying to run the band people off, as it is all great reading, but it always seems to get mixed into the wrong areas.

There's nothing wrong with talking about band here, b/c the thread was STARTED, talking about the band! Besides, if we aren't trying to argue something stupid like BAND RULES or any other nerdy topid like that, why does it matter?? We are talking about pep band at a basketball game, or marching band at a football game!!! If you don't wanna see BAND in a topic, then go start another topic about something else besides band, and I'm sure we won't pop up in there talking about band....unless it's mentioned by someone else, not in the band!

How bout the refs at the past basketball games??? They've been sucking it up, too!!! We don't have a ref forum!!!!

[TrojanWar]

I believe we discussed this back during the football season, but we really need a forum for band discussions. That group needs to be added. I'm not trying to run the band people off, as it is all great reading, but it always seems to get mixed into the wrong areas.

There's nothing wrong with talking about band here, b/c the thread was STARTED, talking about the band! Besides, if we aren't trying to argue something stupid like BAND RULES or any other nerdy topid like that, why does it matter?? We are talking about pep band at a basketball game, or marching band at a football game!!! If you don't wanna see BAND in a topic, then go start another topic about something else besides band, and I'm sure we won't pop up in there talking about band....unless it's mentioned by someone else, not in the band!

How bout the refs at the past basketball games??? They've been sucking it up, too!!! We don't have a ref forum!!!!

Why the hostility? Did you even read my post before you quoted it? Let me say this again. I LIKE THE BAND! My point is that once the band gets mentioned in a thread, the thread is then dominated by band talk, and new band points are brought up or argued. We need a forum for band discussions and arguements. Yes, I would participate as I was a college band geek many years back. How come everytime the idea is brought up, the current SOTS members get irrate and start throwing a fit? The band is big-time, and should have it's own forum, just as football, basketball, baseball, etc.. The new forum should be called "Sound of the South." I think it would be very active with some interesting reading.

[SOTSAlumBigGuns]

I agree... some band people need to chill out.:wink: As far as a "Sound of the South" forum, there is one. I would think that's why a "Band" forum has not been added on gotroytrojans.com.

http://www.soundofthesouth.org/forum/default.asp

[TrojanWar]

I agree... some band people need to chill out.:wink: As far as a "Sound of the South" forum, there is one. I would think that's why a "Band" forum has not been added on gotroytrojans.com.

http://www.soundofthesouth.org/forum/default.asp

Thanks for the link. I still would like to see Jeff add a section on this board for the band as well. I would not have said that in the fall, but so many SOTS members are regular posters now that I think it is warranted. I think it would get a lot of action.

[troy_university_majorette]

I wasn't trying to get hostile, I promise. :wink: I was just saying that since the actual topic started off with talking ABOUT the band, I didn't see what was wrong with continuing the talk about the band!! I know other threads just had a point or two, and they usually get dominated, but that was mostly during the bowl game, when everybody was hyped up about the bowl.

[TrojanWar]

No problem here. My point was not to tell you to stop talking about the band, but rather to suggest (again) a band forum on this board. If there is no band forum, then of course the band discussions will be posted in the various other forums. That's just logical.

See my point now?

[TSUWhiner]

Majorturdette needs to stop making excuses. The group should be semi-professional. Go to U. of Miami for a great dance team..learn how to stay in step on the field too. Second, the pep band is awesome guys. Remember Ben Fletcher? I saw with him during dinner one night..which in turn he had a new recruit with him for the up and coming season. One of the things that he preached to the recruit was the atmosphere of the basketball arena. At the time he mentioned the pep band and how the heckly the other players, play loud..etc. Of course he talked about the great fans we had at the time. I say at the time because I hear its like going to a gym with 100 or so people there. Next, I agree with tsufl. The popcorn blows chunks and the drinks are too watered down. Let me see..what else can I b***h about??? The people that sit in the red chairs need to actually stand up and cheer for the team. The frats need to stop acting like they own the section behind the basketball goal..because they dont. I think during half time they should bring in some circus clowns or Mr. Ho. Fans should be at liberty to perform the Ron Artest skit. hmmmm...I am running out of stuff...later people :)

GO TROJANS!!?!?

[TrojanWar]

hmmmm...I am running out of stuff

Thank God!

[Troy_Nomad]

I also agree that there should be a band forum. I like the band. Don't get me wrong, I think they are great. But on a basketball forum I don't like having to dig through posts by 8th year senior music majors debating about correct embouchure and who has better intonation. On a basketball forum talk about basketball.

[TSUWhiner]

8th year senior music educators :) hehehe....it only took me 3 years. I love this msg board :)

[troy_university_majorette]

Who's all going to the game tonight??

[st932253]

Majorette, dance team, softball. Wow.

[TrojanWar]

Majorette, dance team, softball. Wow.

Dude, go scope out chicks on your own board. What's wrong, are the UCF girls that ugly?