Hawkins for Governor -

[WhoaNellie!!!]

Chancellor Hawkins announced this morning that he will not be running for governor in 2010.

[troy4ever]

While I think that Chancellor Hawkins would make an excellent governor...I must admit that I'm kinda glad he's not going to run. He's done so much for TROY University as chancellor and I'm happy to know that he'll continue to lead our University.

[Navarre Trojan]

for everyone on the board that claim to be "in the know" about Dr. Hawkins' plans to run, this should serve as notice that you don't always know what you think you know...

http://www.whnt.com/news/sns-ap-al--hawkins-governor,0,5832833.story

[Hector]

While I think that Chancellor Hawkins would make an excellent governor...I must admit that I'm kinda glad he's not going to run. He's done so much for TROY University as chancellor and I'm happy to know that he'll continue to lead our University.

Troy4Ever, I could not agree with you more.

[TroyPremier]

for everyone on the board that claim to be "in the know" about Dr. Hawkins' plans to run, this should serve as notice that you don't always know what you think you know...

http://www.whnt.com/news/sns-ap-al--hawkins-governor,0,5832833.story

While I feel the same way, was that really necessary to say?

[Navarre Trojan]

While I feel the same way, was that really necessary to say?

I think it is ok that every once in awhile it is alright to reinforce the message that "one should have all their ducks in a row before proclaiming to know something that they have no idea about" without calling someone out or pointing the message directly at someone. So necessary? Probably not, appropriate yet non-adversariol, absolutely!

[Troy_Nomad]

I can't say I blame him. Who wants to be governor when the whole country is about to be bankrupt thanks to a free-spending president who thinks the solution to every problem is to spend money we don't have. Glad you'll still be around Jack.

[TroyPremier]

I can't say I blame him. Who wants to be governor when the whole country is about to be bankrupt thanks to a free-spending president who thinks the solution to every problem is to spend money we don't have. Glad you'll still be around Jack.

The government will never go bankrupt. The fools will just print more money at the cost of inflation.

The press release has definitely given Troy University the spotlight along with Jack. I think his "passion for Troy" will definitely be positive PR for Troy.

[troyfan13]

for everyone on the board that claim to be "in the know" about Dr. Hawkins' plans to run, this should serve as notice that you don't always know what you think you know...

http://www.whnt.com/news/sns-ap-al--hawkins-governor,0,5832833.story

So he called a news conference to proclaim he wasnt running for something. Just one question why would he do that unless he had planned to? If you know anything about politics in Alabama then you would know why he bowed out now instead of losing in the primary. The news conference proves that those who claim to be "in the know" did know. The fact he called a news conference proves it. The reality of Alabama politics is that he couldnt win in the republican primary. After a long look and probably some reality checks, he realized it and bowed out.

[Navarre Trojan]

So he called a news conference to proclaim he wasnt running for something. Just one question why would he do that unless he had planned to? If you know anything about politics in Alabama then you would know why he bowed out now instead of losing in the primary. The news conference proves that those who claim to be "in the know" did know. The fact he called a news conference proves it. The reality of Alabama politics is that he couldnt win in the republican primary. After a long look and probably some reality checks, he realized it and bowed out.

you say! I don't believe that for ONE MINUTE, not after the conversations I have had in Troy over the last 2 or 3 months.

[troyfan13]

So let me get this right...he called a news conference to say he was not running for something that he had never considered?

Get real. The word was out that he was going to take a look at the republican primary as far back as 2006. There is no dispute in that. IMHO what happened (as in all political campaigns) he saw those backers that he needed lined up behind oher horses. That is in no way disparaging to hawkins but just a political reality.

But to suggest that he wasnt involved in or even heavily considered a run because he called a news conference to bow out is just laughable.

[Hector]

So he called a news conference to proclaim he wasnt running for something. Just one question why would he do that unless he had planned to? If you know anything about politics in Alabama then you would know why he bowed out now instead of losing in the primary. The news conference proves that those who claim to be "in the know" did know. The fact he called a news conference proves it. The reality of Alabama politics is that he couldnt win in the republican primary. After a long look and probably some reality checks, he realized it and bowed out.

Your conclusion is in very much incorrect. Dr. Hawkins did not "bow out" of anything, because he never declared himself as a candidate. At a point where he would have had to make a decision about running, he told the public has decided NOt to run, and the reasons why. Dr. Hawkins would have gotten the Republican nomination had he wanted to run, based on his excellent name recognition around the state, and based on his access to funding. Weighing all those factors, he still decided to stay at Troy. I'm glad he did. And, by the way, those folks you mentioned who you say are "in the know" definitely are not. They blew smoke out their ears is all they did.

[troyfan13]

Funny I dont seem to remember him calling a news conference every four years to declare to the public he was not running for governor. You are correct there was no chance that the word was put out in 2006 that he was interested in a run for governor, nor were there financial committments obtained to help finance a run nor were political calculations made as to the potential success of such an endeavor. But then again if the above wasnt true why call a press conference? If it were only rumors a phone call and simple press release would have nixed this back in 2006. So he has the biggest ego in the world or he needed to call a presser to announce his decision not to run after consideration and to thank all of those who had put in time to help him explore the opportunity. Again not real sure why this is controversial.

On a side note, IMHO he had no chance at winning the republican primary. Too many sharks already in a feeding frenzy.

[TroyPremier]

On a side note, IMHO he had no chance at winning the republican primary. Too many sharks already in a feeding frenzy.

Are you referring to the AIDB controversy?

[troyfan13]

Are you referring to the AIDB controversy?

No. I was basically referring to the fact that the political subdivisions of the republican base in this state are already going at it. I really believe (like Bonner) he made a good decision based upon the current politcal landscape. IMHO while Troy would have gotten some good press out of his run those subdivisions (and their current behavior I believe bears this out) would have set out to destroy him and thereby Troy if he polled above 20%. Politics (as you know) is a nasty no holds barred business. Those subdivisions do not really care who or what they destroy to maintain their hold on power. That fractured base will make for good theater the next couple of years however.

BTW I think he would make a great governor with a true focus on what the folks in Alabama really care about. It would have been interesting to hear his beliefs and opinions concerning all the issues in Alabama and his solutions. Like I said previously I was not in anyway disparaging him. I was just saying he obviously took a long hard look before deciding to sit it out and for those on here to suggest otherwise just doesnt make good sense.

[Hector]

Funny I dont seem to remember him calling a news conference every four years to declare to the public he was not running for governor. You are correct there was no chance that the word was put out in 2006 that he was interested in a run for governor, nor were there financial committments obtained to help finance a run nor were political calculations made as to the potential success of such an endeavor. But then again if the above wasnt true why call a press conference? If it were only rumors a phone call and simple press release would have nixed this back in 2006. So he has the biggest ego in the world or he needed to call a presser to announce his decision not to run after consideration and to thank all of those who had put in time to help him explore the opportunity. Again not real sure why this is controversial.

On a side note, IMHO he had no chance at winning the republican primary. Too many sharks already in a feeding frenzy.

Why would he have called a press conference four years ago if at the time he was not considering a run? This comment therefore makes no sense. On the current race, had he decided to run, he would have then gone into active mode on financing. Raising money would not have been a problem for Dr. Hawkins had he decided to declare. So why the press conference if he wasn't running? As a courtesy to his freinds and supporters who had encouraged him to run, and most importantly, for the sake of Troy University, so that its' trustees and staff would know that they would be able to count on his leadership for some more years. I hope I have helped you understand why Dr. Hawkins called the conference.

[troyfan13]

Why would he have called a press conference four years ago if at the time he was not considering a run? This comment therefore makes no sense. On the current race, had he decided to run, he would have then gone into active mode on financing. Raising money would not have been a problem for Dr. Hawkins had he decided to declare. So why the press conference if he wasn't running? As a courtesy to his freinds and supporters who had encouraged him to run, and most importantly, for the sake of Troy University, so that its' trustees and staff would know that they would be able to count on his leadership for some more years. I hope I have helped you understand why Dr. Hawkins called the conference.

maybe you are a little slow....we agree then that he considered a run and further put the word out years ago that he wanted to be governor but political reality made that impossible

[pat4troy]

I know a few people who recieved telephone calls surveying them to see who they would vote for in a primary, and Hawkins was one of the choices. Some of those people live in Troy and told others about the survey, and that may have been one of the reasons to officially announce that he was not running.

[TrojanWar]

Jimmy Raine is going to run for Governor. That's why Angie Casey left WTVY News 4 in Dothan. She is going to help run his campaign. I never thought he would be stupid enough considering all of the skeletons in his closet.

[TrojanEmpire]

Jimmy Raine is going to run for Governor. That's why Angie Casey left WTVY News 4 in Dothan. She is going to help run his campaign. I never thought he would be stupid enough considering all of the skeletons in his closet.

I wouldn't vote for that tool for coroner, much less governor. BTW why does a person running for coroner have to declare a party?

[JPSousa1898]

Some people might actually not want a democrat burying them for fear of desecration of the body, and some people might not want a republican burying them for fear of trying to convert their corpse...

Personally... I wouldn't vote for a bear. Bears never make good grades in Mortuary school and have bad tempers. They also don't have the dexterity it takes to use the equipment used in Mortuary Science. So... no bears for coroner!

[henrimasters]

Your conclusion is in very much incorrect. Dr. Hawkins did not "bow out" of anything, because he never declared himself as a candidate. At a point where he would have had to make a decision about running, he told the public has decided NOt to run, and the reasons why. Dr. Hawkins would have gotten the Republican nomination had he wanted to run, based on his excellent name recognition around the state, and based on his access to funding. Weighing all those factors, he still decided to stay at Troy. I'm glad he did. And, by the way, those folks you mentioned who you say are "in the know" definitely are not. They blew smoke out their ears is all they did.

He did not bow out. He realized that he had not overcome the skeletons in the closet and had no way to defend his arrival at TU while under scrutiny of the DA after an appointment by a convicted ex-Governor. He knows where his bread is buttered and he knew he and the queen could not stand the vetting for the office. He will continue to do his job at Troy and stay under the radar if he is smart, which I think he is. He has done a good job at Troy but I do not trust him. He has done a poor job of integrating the University with the city and has no personal relationship with the Troy public. He and Janice are carpetbaggers and decisions are made is in consideration of personal gain.

Sorry, I do not follow your leader blindly.

Go Trojans!