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ManzanoWolf
05-13-2008, 01:16 PM
From the CUSA Board:


GMAC Bowl in discussions with other leagues, and a new look to Ladd-Peebles could only help

Tuesday, May 13, 2008
By GARETH CLARY
Sports Reporter

The GMAC Bowl is exploring a new combination of conference tie-ins, and proposed enhancements to Ladd-Peebles Stadium that could help attract a relationship with a high-profile league.

The bowl's contracts with Conference USA and the Mid-America Conference expire after the 2009 contest, which is set for Jan. 6.

GMAC Bowl officials have been in talks about new tie-ins beginning in 2010 with several conferences, including the Southeastern Conference, Atlantic Coast Conference, Big East, Western Athletic Conference and the Sun Belt.

"Where we stand is we're talking to a lot of people and we'll probably make some changes," said GMAC Bowl President Jerry Silverstein. "It looks like that. It's positive that the city is going to do some things to the stadium that's going to really help a lot and bring some interest to it with everything that's going on in Mobile with the economy and businesswise.

"We hope to have some announcements to make probably in the next 60 days of what our future is. We're still working on it. We're not dotting 'I's' and crossing 'T's' yet, but we're real close."

Silverstein declined to reveal which conferences were providing the most serious interest in hooking up with the GMAC Bowl.

He noted the WAC has Louisiana Tech in the Central Standard Time zone and that Troy of the Sun Belt was 8-4 last year, but didn't receive a bowl bid.

Silverstein also pointed out that the SEC's new tie-in with the Papajohns.com Bowl at Legion Field in Birmingham, announced last week, is only a two-year deal. That new contract represents the SEC's ninth bowl tie-in.

"That leaves the door open for some things in the future," Silverstein said. "That would be the ultimate if you could get in the rotation where you're guaranteed a team."

Silverstein acknowledged there would be obstacles to overcome for that scenario to unfold.

"We're a mid-major bowl and we want to do the best we can," he said. "We have limited resources with the size of our stadium and what we have to deal with. We have only 40,000 seats instead of the 72,000 they have in Birmingham. We would have to raise our ticket prices probably double from what they are to be comparable, which is not the Mobile market.

"That's not to say that between sponsorship and TV contracts in situations that could come about that it's impossible to do."

The GMAC Bowl nearly pulled an SEC team through a loophole in its contract with the MAC last year. That clause allowed the game to choose an SEC team that went 7-5 and was not selected to fill one of the league's tie-ins.

Steve Spurrier's South Carolina squad was 6-6 and not invited to a bowl game. An appeal to the NCAA to waive the 7-5 requirement was rejected, so the GMAC Bowl was unable to invite the Gamecocks to town with their legendary coach and legions of traveling fans.

Silverstein said the size of Ladd-Peebles Stadium hasn't been a major issue in discussions with some of the major conferences.

"There's not really a size limit," said Silverstein, adding that it would be a nice carrot if the stadium had another 10,000 seats. "They want tickets and they want their payouts. A lot of bowls are going more regionally instead of sending teams from the Northeast to California or something.

"We're in a great spot here in Mobile. It's just making it all work out and making the numbers work."

Silverstein said the game has a little bit of an edge because its contracts come up a year earlier than many comparable bowls with four-year arrangements.

"It allows us to know what the landscape is and we've been working for a couple of years," he said. "We couldn't really make any of those moves being under contract and where things are. We're out of sequence and that started several years ago with some renewals and things like that. It probably can be an advantage for us in a lot of things."

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Discophobia
05-13-2008, 03:00 PM
This article goes right along with one in Sunday's Mobile Register. The City of Mobile is going to put sky boxes in at Ladd, move the sidelines back, re-tool the restroom and concessions, expand the number of seats, invest in a new scoreboard and paint the stadium red, white and blue. This is too get ready for Jags football. This is already a much nicer stadium than Legion Field. This also helps The Senior Bowl and GMAC Bowl.

TrojanFan2
05-13-2008, 03:27 PM
it would be a great 2nd bowl for the SunBelt

TU Rob
05-13-2008, 04:00 PM
it would be a great 2nd bowl for the SunBelt

Definitely. Lots of SBC schools are fairly close to Mobile.

ASU is less than 8 hours.
Troy is less than 3.5
MTSU is less than 7
ULM is less than 5.5
LaLa is less than 4
WKU is less than 8

The other three are all about a 10 hour drive.

JonesOxygen
05-13-2008, 04:04 PM
If they don't sign with the Sun Belt they are as dumb as our league commish.

troy4ever
05-13-2008, 04:14 PM
Trust me, they would much rather sign with the SEC schools than the SBC school.

TSUWhiner
05-13-2008, 04:28 PM
makes me wonder if Denver will ever field a team :)

Whiner

BlueRaiderFn
05-13-2008, 05:32 PM
Trust me, they would much rather sign with the SEC schools than the SBC school.

They could get both.

TU/JSU Fan
05-13-2008, 06:22 PM
No way they sign with the SBC if the SEC is available and wants another Bowl. Absolutely NO WAY.And if you think they will you are smoking something that I want a piece of! : )

Michael

BlueRaiderFn
05-13-2008, 06:44 PM
No way they sign with the SBC if the SEC is available and wants another Bowl. Absolutely NO WAY.And if you think they will you are smoking something that I want a piece of! : )

Michael

What about if a lower tier SEC team wants a bowl and the GMAC wants a Sunbelt team to go with them...

Hemi Man
05-13-2008, 07:48 PM
Isn't the SEC already tied into 9 bowls or 10 with the BCS? I would think that is a stretch for bowl eligible teams.

littlebittyschool
05-13-2008, 08:39 PM
From what I gathered from the article, it seems like the GMAC bowl is looking to snatch the SEC tie-in from the Papa John's bowl. So, maybe that opens up a spot there.

Burn the Horse
05-14-2008, 10:39 AM
It's a sad day folks. Bowls used to be for the teams who deserved them. That is nolonger the case. Bowls are about who can bring the most fans, and by defacto, money. That's it.

Trojan1998
05-14-2008, 11:03 AM
It's a sad day folks. Bowls used to be for the teams who deserved them. That is nolonger the case. Bowls are about who can bring the most fans, and by defacto, money. That's it.

Exactly Delta Chi. I'm just old enough to remember where there were less than twenty bowl games and only deserving teams were invited. However, at the rate we're headed, there will be enough bowl games where every team, regardless of record at the I-A level, is playing somewhere come late December/early January. Maybe we can bring a new bowl game to Rip-Hewes Stadium in Dothan - call it the Peanut Bowl and get the Planters Co. to be the title sponsor. It could pit the 4th place Sun Belt team against #12 from the SEC.

TU Rob
05-14-2008, 11:07 AM
Exactly Delta Chi. I'm just old enough to remember where there were less than twenty bowl games and only deserving teams were invited. However, at the rate we're headed, there will be enough bowl games where every team, regardless of record at the I-A level, is playing somewhere come late December/early January. Maybe we can bring a new bowl game to Rip-Hewes Stadium in Dothan - call it the Peanut Bowl and get the Planters Co. to be the title sponsor. It could pit the 4th place Sun Belt team against #12 from the SEC.


And include with every ticket sold a large cup of Trawick's Peanuts. And a souvenir photo book of all the peanuts all over town, with the Golden Peanut being the one on the cover.

We could have the coaches and players from each team pose by the big gold peanut for the picture on the programs.

And while we're at it, go ahead and move the Peanut Festival to December and have the parade the morning of the game.

First 1,000 tickets sold get free admission to the fairgrounds, and a sheet of ride tickets.

TU/JSU Fan
05-14-2008, 12:17 PM
Bowls are completely about $$$$$$$ NOTHING Else..

I don't think anyone will argue that point.

I would imagine that the idea behind this is that the GMAC bowl is going to try to take the SEC tie in from the PapaJohns bowl (heck.. they have already moved it after the new year -- anyone wonder why when they did that?) The deal is that they will snatch the SEC team from the PJB and then the SBC will FINALLY get their second bid from the PJ Bowl (HOPEFULLY).

I think it would be good for the SBC to be in with the Papa John's Bowl.. I mean.. SBC vs Big East would be nice.. Troy plays a Big East Team in that game they probably fill up the stadium and folks are happy.

The SBC isn't going to get the GMAC Bowl.. There is a reason that they moved it to be the last 'regular' bowl to be played.. And it isn't so that the SBC can have a second bowl game.. : )

ManzanoWolf
05-14-2008, 02:46 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3395953


Humanitarian Bowl needs new partner after ACC goes in another direction

By Heather Dinich
ESPN.com

Updated: May 14, 2008, 2:09 PM ET

AMELIA ISLAND, Fla. -- Beginning in 2009, the Atlantic Coast Conference will no longer partner with the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise, Idaho, league commissioner John Swofford said Wednesday at the conclusion of the league's annual spring meetings.

Instead, the ACC has begun discussions with the fledgling Congressional Bowl (Washington, D.C.) and the GMAC Bowl (Mobile, Ala.) to add one or both for next season.

Burn the Horse
05-14-2008, 06:41 PM
so the BCS conferences almost have a monopoly on the BCS bowls, now they're trying to get a monopoly on the "regular bowls." nice.

BlueRaiderFn
05-14-2008, 07:39 PM
Eventually they won't be able to fill all of their slots because they'll have more bowls than teams over .500. This will open up some bowls for Sunbelt teams. I still think we get another bowl by the end of next year.

Burn the Horse
05-14-2008, 08:11 PM
I agree with you, but that is the problem. If the power 6 conferences eat up all the "regular bowls," the rest of us will only be able to get into bowls when those conferences can't meet their obligations. And that my friends, is bullcrap.

jagd1305
05-14-2008, 08:16 PM
Here's a bet, boys and girls....at the end of the 2008 season, there will only be one SBC team in a bowl and that will be in New Orleans.

Burn the Horse
05-14-2008, 08:20 PM
Here's a bet, boys and girls....at the end of the 2008 season, there will only be one SBC team in a bowl and that will be in New Orleans.

I'll put money on that.

BlueRaiderFn
05-15-2008, 05:15 AM
I agree with you, but that is the problem. If the power 6 conferences eat up all the "regular bowls," the rest of us will only be able to get into bowls when those conferences can't meet their obligations. And that my friends, is bullcrap.

Hopefully it won't matter by this time next year. The ACC is out of the Humanitarian Bowl and we may be able topick up a slot in that game. I don't want to travel to Boise to do it, but at least it's another bowl.

Navarre Trojan
05-15-2008, 05:25 AM
Hopefully it won't matter by this time next year. The ACC is out of the Humanitarian Bowl and we may be able topick up a slot in that game. I don't want to travel to Boise to do it, but at least it's another bowl.

is incredible. "Win the Sun Belt, go to New Orleans and represent! Come in second (let's say at 8-4), and you get to go to Boise!?" Sun Belt Runner-up goes to Bosie, Idaho as a REWARD for coming in second."

With the WAC tie-in, you are almost ALWAYS assured of playing Boise State. Now, going one time, for the holidays, get in some snow boarding and lodge lounging, that would be cool. But, I gotta tell ya, I think one trip to Boise would do it for me. "New Orleans every year, OK, Boise, not-so-much!"

BlueRaiderFn
05-15-2008, 06:10 AM
is incredible. "Win the Sun Belt, go to New Orleans and represent! Come in second (let's say at 8-4), and you get to go to Boise!?" Sun Belt Runner-up goes to Bosie, Idaho as a REWARD for coming in second."

With the WAC tie-in, you are almost ALWAYS assured of playing Boise State. Now, going one time, for the holidays, get in some snow boarding and lodge lounging, that would be cool. But, I gotta tell ya, I think one trip to Boise would do it for me. "New Orleans every year, OK, Boise, not-so-much!"

I completely agree, but at this point, we can't be picky. Just think of how good the conference (not to mention Troy) would have looked had you guys gone in and spanked Boise in that game last year. No one expects us to do it (as a conference), but I think you guys could have hung with just about anyone last year. A second bowl anywhere except Hawaii is a step in the right direction for now. We prove ourselves through ticket sales and wins in whatever bowl games we can get to and bigger and better things will follow. What the WAC, MWC and Conf USA fans (for the most part) fail to understand is just how big football is in the South. With a little luck, I expect this conference to grow to become recognized as one of the best, if not the best, Non Power Six conference(s) in the country. It sounds like a stretch now, but I don't think people realize just how fertile of a football area that the south is. Especially those that are fans of western teams. Everyone needs to just hang in there and good things will happen. It just takes a little time.

Discophobia
05-15-2008, 01:14 PM
The current bowl structure is BS! Last year is the best example there is. It is nothing more than a monopoly by the traditional powers, who will do anything to hang on to the power and the money. We need regional conference restructuring and a playoff.

Burn the Horse
05-15-2008, 02:56 PM
The current bowl structure is BS! Last year is the best example there is. It is nothing more than a monopoly by the traditional powers, who will do anything to hang on to the power and the money. We need regional conference restructuring and a playoff.

Never gonna happen. I love the enthusiasm, and even more so the willingness to say it, but the BCS conferences are not going to want another shake up. The SEC is probably set in stone for the next century, and the ACC looks pretty stable now as well. The Big East seems to be the only power 6 conference dipping into the mid-majors for new teams, and THAT is only the case because of the ACC looting of recent.

I agree Troy needs to move out of the Belt. People say, "hang in there, things are getting better." BS my friends. I agree the Belt is a better conference than C-USA in football (not basketball though), but C-USA is where its at in the mid majors right now. The MAC, the WAC, the MidWest, all those conferences are OK too, but USA is the one with 7 bowl tie-ins. SEVEN!

Sorry Sun Belt, give me Conference USA all day.

BlueRaiderFn
05-15-2008, 04:07 PM
Sorry Sun Belt, give me Conference USA all day.


Sorry, but Conf USA will not stay at 7 bowl games because A) they won't be able to provide enough teams above .500 on a consistent basis and 2) because the teams they do send to that 7th bowl will not put enough butts in the seats. In 3 years the Sunbelt will have 3 bowl tie ins and Conf USA will be back down to 6. That still gives them the edge, but it is just too hard for EVERYONE in the Sunbelt to jump to that ship. Troy is looking good so far to do it, but who knows when that ship will sail. As far as basketball, we do need a huge improvement. If WKU can play as well half of the time as they did last year, we are looking a huge increase in conference revenue. I still say just hang in there! :)